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Old 02-07-2014, 12:50 PM
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Default Re: Serious Hacker Concerns

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Originally Posted by Amaya - Siel View Post
Problem is,

I know damn well if it was up to half of the retards on this game I'd be banned, and I've never hacked. But I probably get reported 10 times daily, and spend most of my day being shouted at "Hacker" even while I'm LIVE STREAMING...

People claim hacks all day long, and I'm sure a ton of people hack. But right now without something that DETECTS the hack I wouldn't trust NCSoft to handle it based off of peoples reports with their crappy ass PC's frapsing at 5 frames per second. I've only ever watched a handful of videos in years that I would confidently say were hacking. It's way too hard. You have to catch these things at the source. Bottom line.
You've destroyed me before. I don't think you're a hacker. But, let me go off my own personal experience.

There are a very large number of players on the Siel Asmo side that I gamed with when I first started that I met in IRC. They were called "pro" by basically everyone who ever played with them.

As I began to get to know these people, they invited me to their inner circle, where they explained the basic functioning of the most common hacks:

1) Radar hacking, a hack that displays the distance between yourself and a number of other registered items that overlays your in game screen.

2) No animation hacking - and here is where people who have never hacked and have no friends who admit to it fall short of assessing this problem.

A) No animation hacking does not work simply by turning the animation on, or off. It is not a 100% or 0% item. It has settings ranging from 1-1000. Most of the players I PVP'd with left their setting at 195. This gave the appearance that they were not hacking, but sped up their animations enough to be in line with what we generally associate with "WoW" or Word of Wind. This means that their animations would cancel fast enough that they could spam skills at the same speed they could if they were buffed with WoW.

- Want to test this? Have two players that keybind their skills and are considered "skilled" i.e. fast key presses. Next, knock this player down with a templar or glad. A hacking templar or gladiator will be able to get off 1-2 kd skills before the non hacking opponent is able to remove shock. Also, it works in the reverse, if a player is so fast on their remove shock that you see them stumble, but are unable to use your KD skill because they cancelled the animation on the remove shock, i.e. they are still stumbled on screen, but they are already auto attacking and or casting their remove shock skill before you can even breakpower or w/e that glad skill is, they are hacking. This is not a "no that person is just faster"..... No, you're lying, and you're a hacker if you agree with that statement, the fact is, that player, who somehow magically presses their remove shock and KD skills faster than any other opponent could without WoW, is hacking. They've turned their animation setting to a low value to avoid being caught openly, and they've made it so you can barely draw a line between a hacker and a legitimately good player.

B) This hack setting can not be applied to "1000" for melee users. By putting it at "1000" you run the risk of your melee animations being so fast that your skill presses from your keyboard get negated for auto attacks. Therefore you can't use skills because youre to busy auto attacking at "FLASH" speed.

3) Speed hacks - this is more of a teleportation hack that increases your characters run speed to the point where you gain a .3 to .4 edge in being able to stay on target. At it's lowest settings a leather class will appear to be un-kiteable due to their natural run speed buffs, at it's highest setting the opposing player will teleport around.

4) No gravity - this hack makes it so that your character stops in a position above the playable ground. It eliminates the rules of gravity.

5) No Clip - this allows players to walk through walls, and is a major way people in the level 50 range (hacking twinks etc.) farm hexway and other instances.

6) Autpot/Chain skil - ever feel like someone is always able to FE your IJ? Or always knows the exact moment to press an AP pot / heal pot to maximize their use of second wind or emp armor? That can be in relation to this, which triggers skill use upon other deciding factors. Because the chat log in Aion registers a skill cast before it takes place - a player using this hack can Focused Evade upon the signal from the chat log that the opponent has used Doom Lure. The program then automatically casts Focus Evade, and voila, you just FE'd doom lure like a magician pro that is just so great at this game.

How do you prove these things? It's legit not possible, if it was, they wouldn't be in game or exist.

The problem I have Vinley, is that, these players I'm referencing, that taught me all of this information? They used to say the same things you're saying now to the public.

"LOL everyone thinks im a Hacker because they just suck"

"I don't know why people accuse me of hacking, they're just bad"

Also, let's not mention that you can hack while streaming and it would be oblivious to the casual gamer or even those people who don't have the intimate knowledge I've stated above. You would just simply minimize the program and play in full screen. It hides itself so that if you were to take a screenshot it just appears as a random window on your desktop. They fixed this after that one templar from Israphel got himself busted.

So I'm sorry if I take your post with a grain of salt. The fact is, if you were a hacker, your post would be exactly the best kind of post to make to defend yourself from NCSoft.

"See NCSoft, I'm not hacking, you can't physically prove it, and I already warned you that people accuse me of hacking because they're just bad!"


The real answer is for NCsoft employee's to download the software, and figure out how to counter it.

Let me finish by saying I'm interested to see what the back lash to my post will be, undoubtedly a CM or VFM will remove it because it's so revealing, why keep the community informed that they can't actually save us from these programs? Instead leave them in the dark.

The other funny thing is all of these complaints about botters. How are you so naive about basic in game economics? Most of the farming materials, random kinah dumps, and stuff that drives the in game economy in Aion, is due to botters. In fact, I'd venture to say that removing botters completely from the MMO would kill the game.

Literally, it would kill the in game economy on multiple servers, killing Aion in the process. Asian MMO's are built on this factor. In fact, in most asian countries botting is considered okay by the general community. That is because the RNG factor in these games (enchant stones, manastones) drive players extremely mad, and the only way for a player with bad luck to counter this gambling mechanism is to buy kinah or bot kinah.

Last edited by Malagen - Siel; 02-07-2014 at 01:30 PM.