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Old 10-08-2016, 11:00 PM
Elyos
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Default Templar PVE stigma and dps

hi I decided to get invigorating strike vision stigma when 5.1 hits us

So I having EP,PoV,PoR and IB,Punishment the question is at last stigma should I get Divine Fury or PT ?
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Old 10-10-2016, 09:12 AM
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Default Re: Templar PVE stigma and dps

Honestly, most PvE I just go in PvP.

AA
PoR
Fury
Punishment
Punishing Thrust
IB

Unless it's a specialty job like add duty in ADLR/DD. Then I drop AA for EP and -maybe- PoR for PoV (you don't really need it though). Never really bother with an extra taunt but I'm not saying it's a bad idea. Only for add duty though, you really don't need anything else at all, even OW lvl 80 bosses I just drop AA for EP and don't even need it most of us are 70 - 72. (I'm not saying you need AA for PvE ((you do not)), just that you don't really need anything else and I'm lazy. It isn't critical.)

ORB
Sauro
DR
IS
EB can all be done in that same spec I pvp in ez, even solo tank in EB especially now.

I haven't used Barricade since Vision Stigmas came out and I haven't used invig strike in just as long... I don't use SB either for PvE anymore. No point I can still pull pretty decent dps.


For PvP I drop AA for EP if group is over 3 members. I still keep PoR in over PoV. PoV is pretty useless IMO, unless your group is under-quality.
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Old 10-11-2016, 05:01 PM
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Default Re: Templar PVE stigma and dps

Invig can't reflect SM Fears. Just remember that.

EDIT: I literally didn't see this was PvE.
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Old 10-17-2016, 09:37 AM
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Default Re: Templar PVE stigma and dps

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Originally Posted by Soryu - Siel View Post
Invig can't reflect SM Fears. Just remember that.

EDIT: I literally didn't see this was PvE.
Have never used or bothered to use reflect build. Won't build my stigmas to counter something specific when I can rely/train myself to do it instead and retain general strength for all things at the same time.

But tbh, ED is the only vision stigma I find worth it.
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Old 10-18-2016, 04:37 AM
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Default Re: Templar PVE stigma and dps

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Have never used or bothered to use reflect build. Won't build my stigmas to counter something specific when I can rely/train myself to do it instead and retain general strength for all things at the same time.

But tbh, ED is the only vision stigma I find worth it.
Idk. 25m Stun, AoE immo, on demand ranged KD alongside a reflect. It's pretty nifty in Discipline; arenas are important in 5.1. Shieldburst really is a nerdcruncha as well. Having 2 on demand KDs in the kit is pretty solid.
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Old 10-18-2016, 07:12 AM
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Puts me in too much of a defensive/passive strat and from what I remember they lowered DJ's MA considerably. I do miss DJ, but not enough to sacrifice the tools I have now which are all pretty OP despite being a cookie cutter build.
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Old 10-18-2016, 08:31 AM
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Bro you NEED to reflect a fear. The dopamine rush is better than everything up to cocaine.

EDIT: And I feel like you are a go lad.
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Old 10-18-2016, 09:08 AM
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Bro you NEED to reflect a fear. The dopamine rush is better than everything up to cocaine.

EDIT: And I feel like you are a go lad.
Nothing a well timed holy punishment can't fix!
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Old 10-25-2016, 12:29 PM
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Default Re: Templar PVE stigma and dps

Sure is nice of you two to answer OP's question xD

Invig is pretty nice for /some/ circumstances. It has better DPS than Punishing Thrust, Punishment, or Inquisitor's Blow. I use it when I need to sustain for constant combat purposes. TBH the original reason for socketing it was so I could do Sealed Argent Manor, but since they reduced the rank cost you can get A rank without it now. It is also nice for soloing upper abyss instances since they take double damage you heal for twice as much. really solid sustain there. The only problem is it eats so much mana that you have to use mana pots or recovery pots (which isn't an issue in 5.1 when all pots become recovery type).

EP - mandatory
Resilience - its all about sustain so why wouldn't you take it?
Shield of Faith - more useful than increasing max hp. blocking 10 hits is huge when you're in a dps set that won't block passively.

I personally like to just fill my bar with attacks so I always have a high damage skill to weave, so I fill the 3 normal slots with:

Punishment
Punishing Thrust
Inquisitor's Blow

Gint will probably tell me i'm insane for not using double furies, so you can remove punish or PT for divine fury. PT is less DPS due to longer CD, but it is reliable spike. punish is shorter CD and better long-term DPS, but inconsistent damage. You decide.

The only point of running Invigorating strike is for a high-sustain high dps PVE spec. For PVP you'll want to swap Shield of Faith out for Aether Armor, and then decide if you want fury or an extra attacking move instead of EP.

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Old 10-25-2016, 01:04 PM
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Default Re: Templar PVE stigma and dps

fury is 3min cd, too long imo. same thing with IB, but it's nice to have since its ranged and can use to pull when IJ is in cd.

Should really consider using shieldbreaker. Damage is low but it has low cd and its very good skill to weave auto attacks with.
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